Chemtrails coming to a sky near you.

**Roadpizza** · 05-25-09

Ok, these are seen at an almost daily basis around here. I'd like your take on what you seen and what you seen know about this program. I'd like to hear from anybody in the USA and beyond on this subject. As it is no longer a thing to be denied.

http://www.eugenecarsey.com/chemtrails/default.htm

Anybody wondering why this is on a motorcycle forum, it is simple, I'd like to ride under a blue sky some day.

**joewiecha** · 05-25-09

Sorry, what's the point? Trails from planes...so?

**Roadpizza** · 05-25-09

If your referring to contrails that is different from chemtrails. I suggest a search on the subject. And begin to look a little closer to what is a happening overhead. You are going to be in for a surprise.

**joewiecha** · 05-25-09

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Well, it just sounds like a load of late night radio baloney!

**Roadpizza** · 05-25-09

Yes, I know what you are feeling about the whole thing and no, I didn't believe it either at first, so I'm not surprised or offended by you reactions. The fact remains that after observing the sky and seeing the results leaves me no doubt that this is real and on going.

**SHU** · 05-25-09

Nope, I'm not buying this one either. Claims are too complicated, too widespread....the lid would have totally blown off this long ago. ('course I've been wrong before.)

..........shu

**avboden** · 05-25-09

it's a conspiracy theory dude, nothing more.

news flash

THEY ARE CLOUDS!!!!!!!

what you are seeing are contrails, or condensation trails.

few ways they are made.

Condensation from engine exhaust and pressure changes due to the wings.

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I've seen them in person, as well as in the pictures on the site you posted. Nothing more than dense frozen water at high elevation

**avboden** · 05-25-09

no wait, it's for MIND CONTROL!!!! ZOMG NO WAIIIII

I read of one group of people in Phoenix Arizona who were doing hair analysis and were reporting that many different people now have very high levels of barium in their bodies. There is so much barium reported that one excellent website on chemtrails has named itself BariumBlues.

Putting all this information together Michael and I one day hit upon what we believe is the real purpose of the chemtrails. It is mind control. It is done by delivering a high level of metals to all the people of earth. The aim is to turn each one of us into a walking antenna. Human beings are electrical in nature. In addition to our complex electrical makeup, we have an energetic side as well. Our meridians and chakras are only the most basic component of this hidden side. This energetic side is very sensitive to electro magnetic and scalar magnetic signals reaching into the terrahertz band. Saturating humans with metallic compounds makes them more sensitive to man made signals in these ranges. Much research has been conducted and many patents have been awarded relating to remote influence, electromagnetic telepathy and mind control.

There may be other reasons for chemtrails in addition to this, but we believe this is a major reason.

**Roadpizza** · 05-25-09

Andrew, what are you so afraid of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXqun...layer_embedded

http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

**Sturmgreif** · 05-26-09

I think it's a bunch of whining idiots, to be honest. If they really have nothing better to do than complain about different cloud shapes, they should donate some time to a local charity of some sort.

**Roadpizza** · 05-27-09

Yep, I thought the same thing, at first.

In fact, I thought the guy who told me about it was freak'n nuts.....

**Dunny** · 05-27-09

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Those clouds are formed by the overboard venting of the lavatory tanks.....

**Roadpizza** · 05-27-09

**Bpj100** · 05-27-09

Good thing we are not at war, because for that many Chem Trails to be generated on a daily basis, would take fleets of aircraft flying all over the world, no time to drop a bomb on a insurgent stronghold....
Its aliens!!!!!

**Superduper** · 05-28-09

chemtrails are crazy man
who knows what they are.
pretty wild.

**redhededgreg** · 05-28-09

I had a great view of the contrails/chemtrails (take your pick) this morning as I sat in the dentist chair. In the usual reclined position with my mouth agape, I had a wonderful view out the high windows of his office facing north. We are currently in a pattern of crystal clear weather-not a cloud in the sky, in theory at least and according to the dopler radar. How is it then, that by early afternoon, virtually every day we have high, sirius (sp?) like cloud cover? I've been watching jet contrails for many years. I don't recall the slow dissipation and massive expansion we now routinely see. See what you see now in the sky and compare it to what you remember seeing 5 or 10 years ago.

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

It's been very steady over the last few days. Yesterday the pattern was diamond shaped and covered the entire sky. the planes were repeating the pattern later in the day. Very obvious once you take the time to observe.
All the nay-sayers have to do is pay a little more attention to the skies over head to notice.

Something interesting was the fact that over the Memorial Day weekend, we had two days of clear blue skies with not one plane flying overhead with any chemtrails to be seen. Late Monday afternoon they started in again and the sky hazed over.

**steve n rose** · 05-28-09

They haven't found Australia yet, just beautiful blue skys with the very rare contrail.

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

Then you would find it strange to see the "clear" skies here.

In my son's video you can make out the chemtrail pattern in the sky.. goPRO-Slingshot 6M RPM/Celeritas 5'4" on Vimeo

If this address doesn't work, go to my Blog and get on there. You'll see about mid-way what I'm talking about.

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

I think that the program has to do with some type of weather control and/or protection from the sun's rays. I also think there is plenty of disinformation out there to confuse the situation. There are reports out on the effects of the no- fly period during 9/11 when no planes were in the skies and the atmosphere was clear, allowing a startling amount of radiation from the Sun to hit the Earth.

http://www.rense.com/general86/cmm.htm

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

Originally Posted by steve n rose

They haven't found Australia yet, just beautiful blue skys with the very rare contrail.

Are the contrails of a short duration? Or do they go from horizon the horizon and spread out, never leaving the sky?

**GAJ** · 05-28-09

Not even on Snopes.

My friend, who mentioned this to me, also buys into every other conspiracy theory you might care to mention.

He's stopped talking to me about how the Twin Towers were actually brought down by...well I can't remember...was it the CIA? Bush? Can't recall.

Clouds here in NorCal look much as they did when I moved here 25 years ago and the clouds in Miami, where I lived for 9 years, look much the same when I visit.

**Flopp** · 05-28-09

That Pizza. Always good for a giggle.

**joewiecha** · 05-28-09

SO....I'm still waiting to hear exactly what evil the straaaaaange clouds are doing to us...would anyone dare to say?

**Scorch** · 05-28-09

I've got my tinfoil hat, so I'm all sorted...

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

No tin foil hats needed ( never could figure why they would work to begin with)....

The sky was clear today and did not have the huge amount of fly overs. Just a plane or two every now and then. And not one Chemtrail. Laugh all you like.....I'll have pictures soon enough.

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

Your not listening...... again ( maybe your back on you're acid trips, who knows). I believe it may have something to due with the fact that the Western states are drying up faster then has been predicted, so maybe there is a attempt to bring more rains to the areas. Also, it may be an attempt to slow climate change. I don't know at this point but, I know what I've seen. Once I point it out to people around here they begin with the usual joking then after looking and observing the many trails they too see that there is a difference to this happening then meets the casual eye.

Originally Posted by joewiecha

SO....I'm still waiting to hear exactly what evil the straaaaaange clouds are doing to us...would anyone dare to say?

**romanr** · 05-28-09

I'm keeping an open mind, Philip. Can you please explain how one would distinguish a chemtrail from a contrail and/or a chinook generated cirrus cloud formation or a warm front passing from a dispersing chemtrail, please? Thanks. (sincerely).

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

Thanks for that. A normal contrail appears to last for a short period following a high flying jet. Maybe up to a mile, then dissipates. Everybody has seen them all their life growing up.

In the last few years there has been an ever increasing amount of jets flying in patterns in the skies here that leave a trail that does not dissipate but, instead remain long after the plane has gone, to the point that it never really leaves. The trail then progresses to spread out to the point of covering the sky in a haze. A person observing would also note that there are numerous planes involved, far more then one would expect to see. The patterns are very pronounced. Watching the planes in action is akin to watching combines in the field going back and forth in the field. Only it is the sky and these are jets we are talking about.

I have a long time friend back in Ohio that has been observing the same thing back there.

As for cirrus cloud formation or other natural formations..... it is very easy to see the effects of the trails left behind and the clouds formed by Nature. Again, I refer you to the film clip of my son on the Columbia River. You can see natural clouds and you can make out the chemtrails. They will appear as lines side by side. ......the best proof is to watch a clear blue sky fade to haze as you watch the trails left by numerous jets spread out with no other sign of clouds forming.

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Originally Posted by romanr

I trying to keep an open mind, Philip. Can you please explain how one would distinguish a chemtrail from a contrail, please? Thanks. (sincerely).

**romanr** · 05-28-09

OK - that helps. I'm going to start paying more attention.

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

That is all I ask.....

Originally Posted by romanr

OK - that helps. I'm going to start paying more attention.

**polackium** · 05-28-09

a) Geez... paranoid much?
b) I think I might agree with Andrew... they must be for mind control! OMGWTFBBQ?!
um... on second though, nevermind - if they were, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion

c) Finally, Scorch beat me to the TFH (tinfoil hat) punch, but here's a link for you anyway: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

**Roadpizza** · 05-28-09

Nope, not in the least. Just not numb to my surroundings as some people appear to be..... I still don't know how the tin hat works but, I'll have take your word for it.

**polackium** · 05-28-09

Originally Posted by Roadpizza

Nope, not in the least. Just not numb to my surroundings as some people appear to be..... I still don't know how the tin hat works but, I'll have take your word for it.

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**Roadpizza** · 05-29-09

Er, OK....does it work for you or what?

**steve n rose** · 05-29-09

Phil, your spikes aren't working and you've fallen out your tree again.

**Flopp** · 05-29-09

These guys seem to have a good understanding of the situation - http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/SCOOL/contrails.html

But, wait, maybe they are part of the coverup ... or not.

**Roadpizza** · 05-29-09

Originally Posted by steve n rose

Phil, your spikes aren't working and you've fallen out your tree again.

**Roadpizza** · 05-29-09

All interesting stuff.

...Clouds are the largest variable controlling Earth's atmospheric temperature and climate. Any change in global cloud cover may contribute to long-term changes in Earth's climate (see The Role of Clouds from the S'COOL Project). Likewise, any change in Earth's climate may have effects on natural resources. Contrails, especially persistent contrails, represent a human-caused increase in high thin clouds in the Earth's atmosphere, and are likely to be affecting climate and ultimately our natural resources....

Originally Posted by Flopp

These guys seem to have a good understanding of the situation - http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/SCOOL/contrails.html

But, wait, maybe they are part of the coverup ... or not.

**Bpj100** · 05-29-09

I have a great video but cannot figure out how to upload, any help would be great..
(it is subject related )

**Bpj100** · 05-29-09

[video=youtube;qSfjxQD_bPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSfjxQD_bPM"]

**romanr** · 05-29-09

That is *really* cool, Bruce. Thanks.

**joewiecha** · 05-29-09

So what's the big secret? Why can't someone just write a sentence or two here that tell us:

1. What are the "chemtrails" made of.
2. What they do.
3. Why they do it..
4. Who is doing it.

Is it too complicated to write down?

Here, I'll do it:

"Chemtrails look like contrails, but they're actually chemical vapors created in secret by a rogue right wing christian faction of the US military. The poisonous materials are distributed by a cabal of right wing christian airline mechanics who insert the stuff into A1 Jetfuel....and when the skies reach a saturation point, in 2012, when sun spot activity reaches a peak, and the Mayan calendar marks the end of the world, and Nostradamus comes back from the dead, the skies will burst into flame and every living creature on the planet will be instantly flash fried.

That's what Chemtrails do.

**SHU** · 05-29-09

what is it that we're watching here, Bruce?

...........shu

**Roadpizza** · 05-29-09

Looks like the dance of the bumble bees..

**Roadpizza** · 05-29-09

Wow.... That's far out man. Rude and crude but, we'll put it down as a possibility.

Originally Posted by joewiecha

So what's the big secret? Why can't someone just write a sentence or two here that tell us:

1. What are the "chemtrails" made of.
2. What they do.
3. Why they do it..
4. Who is doing it.

Is it too complicated to write down?

Here, I'll do it:

"Chemtrails look like contrails, but they're actually chemical vapors created in secret by a rogue right wing christian faction of the US military. The poisonous materials are distributed by a cabal of right wing christian airline mechanics who insert the stuff into A1 Jetfuel....and when the skies reach a saturation point, in 2012, when sun spot activity reaches a peak, and the Mayan calendar marks the end of the world, and Nostradamus comes back from the dead, the skies will burst into flame and every living creature on the planet will be instantly flash fried.

That's what Chemtrails do.