2018 MV Agusta Turismo Veloce Lusso SCS

[Richard230]

Here is a link to a review of the 2018 MV Agusta Turismo Veloce lusso SCS. Its claim to fame is that it now has a Rekluse slipper clutch system, which apparently acts somewhat like a dual clutch system, without the extra weight or complexity. One thing in the article that caught my attention is that Euro 4 required MV to reduce both the noise and emissions produced by their motorcycle models by 50%, which required a re-engineering of their 800cc engine line. I also found it interesting that they are now using Sachs computer-controlled, semi-active suspension components, which are the same as BMW is currently using. However, unlike the BMW components, MV allows you to adjust the suspension damping using a smart phone app to more than just 2 fixed settings, such as what you get with the BMW R1200R/RS models. But you sure pay for the privilege of buying this bike. Just check out the MSRP for this new model at the end of the article:
http://www.motorcycle.com/features/m...de-review.html

[Richard230]

Here is Revzilla's take on the Veloce 800 Lusso SCS: https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...scs-first-ride

[Mokkybear]

Seems like a pretty nice machine, although when I sat on the original model a while back the seat felt very hard and the riding position was too much like a chookie for my taste.

I do like the ability to tweak the suspension with an app. BMW kept it simple for the R1200R/RS ESA, providing only Road and Sport settings. They do a pretty good job (especially now that 11.5 rather than 7.5 W oil is specified) but I wouldn't mind the ability to tweak it - and likely get it wrong ...

The clutch on the Veloce is more like a centrifugal clutch as found on some tiddlers than a dual clutch. The latter actually has two clutches on two separate drive shafts, one for odd gears and one for even, with (at least) one clutch disengaged at all times (both when stationary). The Rekluse style is like a regular clutch that simply engages through centrifugal action as revs rise and disengages when they drop below a set limit (for stopping). It can also be disengaged conventionally at higher revs using the lever. The bike has a regular up/down quickshifter as found on sports bikes (and, for example, the wet-head R1200 range) which, combined with the clutch provides a semi-automatic effect; that is, no clutch action is required when riding, just use of the gear lever to select gears.

As you say, Richard, you need to really want one to stump up the asking price.

[guidoveloce]

As you say, Richard, you need to really want one to stump up the asking price.

That's the point, if you buy a MV you need to really want one. These aren't bikes for everybody, aren't easy to ride (even if are beautiful and very performing) and need a very expensive maintenance. These bikes are really handmade, their imperfections make them perfect: are a piece of art.

[Mokkybear]

From all reports, the Veloce is, in fact, easy to ride - the fuelling is well sorted so throttle action isn't abrupt the Brutale.

But I agree, you need to have 'the passion' to own one.

[Daboo]

Mark, is "passion" spelled "pa$$ion"?

When I heard the description of the clutch, it seemed a lot like that on the Burgman scooters.

Chris

[guidoveloce]

The phrase "easy to ride" is an opinion if you are speaking about the MV bikes. As every handmade bike these bikes are easy if you have the necessary skills and a lot of experience in riding. If you compare a MV with a BMW you won't surely use the term "easy" to define it. There must be a reason why most of riders (common riders) don't find the MV easy and prefer a japanese or a BMW instead of a MV. These bikes are "precise" more than "easy" and this means that not everybody can handle them.
Don't forget that the testers of the various magazines are professional riders and, even if they are objective, they are inclined to appreciate the qualities of a handmade product. It's not the same thing for most of riders.
Then, I do believe that the Turismo Veloce Lusso SCS is quite easy if compared to other MV models, especially the sport models (F3 and F4), but believe me, try a Turismo Veloce and a S1000XR or any GS, for example, or a Honda Crosstourer with the DCT (or the Crossrunner, which has the same displacement of the Turismo Veloce) and you will understand what I mean.

[guidoveloce]

The price… if you can appreciate the MV, you won't regret a single cent of its price.


But remember that the 5,000 km service for a F4 needs six hours of job and costs about 500 €, plus the brake pads that don't last more than 4,000/5,000 km (350 €). Do you think that most of riders want to spend all that money?

[Mokkybear]

Mark, is "passion" spelled "pa$$ion"?

When I heard the description of the clutch, it seemed a lot like that on the Burgman scooters.

Chris

I think you are right - there’s a strong correlation between passion and the price one is prepared to (and must) pay for ownership.

The concepts of the Burgman 650 and SCS clutches are the same: centrifugal action forces weights to act on a ramp that causes a plate to press against the clutch plate pack. Write-ups thus far imply that the clutch is computer controlled (e.g. to stop the rider taking off in a higher gear. I understand from MV’s video, though, that the clutch is fully mechanical in action; the computer simply prevents the engine applying torque in inappropriate situations.

[Richard230]

Here is a link to a two-up review of the new MV model: https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...-lake-district